Lately there’s a lot of talk about “accomodement raisonnable” (I don’t know the exact term used in English to talk about this, “reasonable arrangement” ) . About a month ago, a local survey showed that 59% of Quebecois thought they were racists. I’m not really surprised by the results (especially not after this year’s experience for the Christmas Basket); they just reflect the issues we might be having towards some minorities. I’m wondering if we are really racists or simply fed up of trying to accommodate different ethnic groups. These issues have been getting to a lot of us. Are we scared of giving up too much, of losing ourselves in this process of accommodating the new comers to Canada? I realise that the events of September 11th affected a lot the way people see Muslims or at least, people from Muslim countries. We have these misconceptions about them all being terrorists. We watched a show about the survey results and the different issues Quebec’s population have with different ethnic groups. It was interesting (for lack of a better term) to see what people thought and what disturbed them.
A Muslim woman, wearing a veil, had a valid point: whom does it bother that she wears a veil? Some were saying we are a culture where women has reached a certain point in society and for a woman to cover her head is like taking a step back vis-à-vis men in general. If that woman had green hair one week and blue the following nobody would be offended or threatened by it, so why is the veil so upsetting? On the other hand, when asked why she was wearing the veil she couldn’t really explain it besides saying it was her choice and belief (not very convincing).
We recently had a case in Montreal where a Muslim woman swimming at a public pool, asked the father of a child who was taking a swim class at the same time, to leave the pool. She didn’t want to swim in front of him, for religious beliefs. The man refused to leave. And I think he did the right thing. Cases like that are more and more heard of.
There is this feeling, this anger brewing around that is making a lot of people uncomfortable. Some push it to the limit, like the town of Herouxville who came out with their set of rules forbidding the weirdest things, in case some immigrants chose their town to immigrate to. Hearing the City Counsellor talk about it made my skin crawled – so much ignorance is scary, and yet some of his points were valid. (Read more about it, here)
Until recently I didn’t really care about the separation of state and church. Now I do. I’m realising that too many things we do are related to religion and often we don’t even question it. I believe in respecting others and their beliefs. Most importantly I respect the fact that we all are different. I actually love that diversity. I’m curious about other cultures, religions and would love to know more about them.
If only we could all agree to disagree and try to adapt. Like Ceasar said so well: “When in Rome, do as the Roman do...”
What do you think?
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I try to be tolerant of others beliefs and religions. I'll be honest, I'm not always good at it.
I would never be rude or hurtful to someone else based on skin colour, religion, or their country of origin. I do think however, that some people (new Canadians) are not as willing to adapt to our way of life. A muslim woman may choose to swim a public pool, but she has no right to ask a male swimmer to leave because of HER belief system. SHE can choose to swim at another time. Many pools have time set aside for men/women only. I don't look at a Muslim and see a terrorist. I do, however, look at a Muslim woman and see someone with very rights and freedom. How can I NOT feel disdain for a religion/lifestyle that treats women as property? How
scary is it that a town has to pass a law stating that it is illegal to burn, stone, or throw acid on a woman?
I am very interested in other religions and cultures. I do not feel that my religion is 'the right ' one just because it is my choice. I just don't understand injustices that take place in the name of God(s).
That's a tough issue with no easy answers. I agree that the Muslim woman should not have asked someone to leave a public pool. That's just ridiculous. I'm all for respecting someone's religious beliefs but not to that extreme. I always took the seperation of church and state for granted but recent world events have given me a new appreciation for it. The two just don't seem to mix well.
I was going to say just about everything that life or something like it said... so I'll just say ditto.
I don't know how much your laws are similar to ours in the States, but I do see some similar issues.
I try to be live and let live. Don't try to force your beliefs on me, and I won't try to force mine on you. I have no problem with someone else wearing a veil, but they shouldn't have a problem with my NOT wearing one, either.
I heard an American muslim woman interviewed (probably on NPR) about choosing to wear the veil because she felt it actually gave her MORE control and freedom over her body, since she was the one deciding at all times who was able to see it. Interesting perspective.
There was also an interesting story on NPR this morning about ultra-conservative Orthodox Jews in Israel. The men in this sect (can't remember the name) have taken it upon themselves to make riders of the public buses conform to their beliefs--threatening (and in one case actually beating) women who refuse to move to the back of the bus.
You'd think people who have been on the receiving end of generations of prejudices would be more tolerant. Sadly, not the case. I personally feel the only place I have the right to enforce my beliefs rigidly is my own home. Once I venture out into the world at large, I expect that not everyone will agree with me on everything.
I believe that everyone should have the right to practice their own religion as long as it doesn't put anyone in danger. For instance, I don't agree with children being able to take ceremonial daggers to school, even if it's their religion.
I've lived in and around Ottawa for a little over 9 years and it's very ethnically diverse. I'd say I'm tolerant although there have been times where I haven't been as tolerant a I should've. Bad experiences with a particular ethnic group tend to affect your views.
As far as the public pool incident, my gut says that she had no right...she doesn't own the pool...if she didn't like him being there then she could leave or go a different time. But maybe she did have a right to ask the man to leave just as the man had every right to say 'no'...and not feel bad about it.
When in Rome...
If people's religious beliefs are so strong that they can't watch people exercizing through a gym window then they need to avoid the street where that kind of image is seen.
They have no right to expect people outside of their religion to even know what they can and can't do let alone abide by it.
I think the laws that town put on their books is acceptable given that people these days sue over everything (like the coffee at McDonalds being too hot, etc.)
The way that Herouxville thing was worded, it almost sounded like you can stone women to death in the privacy of your own home (just not in a public place).
Racism is a huge issue over here. So huge, in fact, that I think I'll write my own post on it.
I will say something here. I used to wear a headscarf a lot back in the 90's. I couldn't really give you a definate reason why I wore them - I just liked them. I had a great collection. I never associated it with Islam because my (Catholic) grandmother wore one whenever she left the house. The bonus was that I got harassed by men a lot less when I wore one.
Post 9/11, I copped so much abuse I began fearing for my safety when I wore it. So I stopped.
But I still like them. Why? I dunno. I just do.
When in Rome...
I agree, It is fine to retain your customs and beliefs, but learn to get along in the city/country where you are. Know and speak the language well enough to function without gov. help.
Lots and lots of great comments on this post.
I don't have much to add that hasn't been discussed, but it sure does give us a lot to think about, doesn't it?
xo
life, or...: Well said - too many things happen in the name of God...
ananke: The limits keep being pushed further and further for some. I never really gave much importance to it (separation of church & state), but I'm starting to see why it should be that way more & more.
dcmm: ditto, indeed.
lizgwiz: When Hubby read this: "I personally feel the only place I have the right to enforce my beliefs rigidly is my own home." from your comment he was almost tempted to comment as well (which he never does!) He was wondering if that means that you would "enforce" your beliefs on your children, in your house?
kim: I agree, bad experiences will affect our views, and I think it's only natural, but we should try NOT to generalize.
princess slea: I agree, they should have frosted their windows but not ask the others to do it, but then the others should have said no! Everything is about letting the others be responsible for us instead of us being responsib;e for ourselves.
hasarder: You think that's scary you should have heard that city counselor talking about it!
It's your right to cover your head, but you're doing it because you want to! If it suits you, go for it, but don't endanger yourself for it. Some people can be very intolerant and just plain dangerous!
wrekless: The language issue is a whole big can of worms! Maybe I'll do a post on it! I enjoy to see other people's customs but at the same time, they live here now, they should try to blend in. I don't go certain places because I don't want to walk behind my husband, or cover myself, etc. When in Rome... I believe that!
atm: A little thinking, never hurt does it? ;-)
I agree with your first commenter. I couldn't say the same thing better.
I think things are also getting out of hand in terms of not offending ANYONE.
stinkypaw, I don't have kids, but that's an interesting point. I suppose if I did, I would encourage them to SHARE my beliefs, but not necessarily RIGIDLY enforce them. And I've given up trying to enforce much of anything on the cats. ;)
kim ayres: I agree, but it's not really the case. Fear rules, sadly enough.
paisley: That "politically correctness" is getting out of hand, I agree.
lizgwiz: Yeah, cats do their own things regardless of your beliefs.
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